From: (Ferry Slik) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 23:54:26 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Katharine Pearce) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:26:39 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O Surprised to see Hopea odorata in bud outside Samling office in Miri, Sarawak. It's planted as a street tree in Malaysia - the ones I saw were particularly flourishing specimens. Kit Pearce Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Mar 2014, at 07:54, Ferry Slik wrote: > > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:27:36 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O I'm not sure which peat swamp area of Brunei was visited by Prof Ferry Silk, but in the interior of Belait District, in the Sungai Ingei Protection Forest, during 2 - 9th March the Project team saw very heavy flowering of Shorea albida in kerapa/peat swamp forest, fallen flowers covering the ground. There also seemed to be a web of fungal hyphae surface, overall. I have pictures of fallen flowers, as (I believe) does Stephen Hogg Gathorne Cranbrook Great Glemham House SAXMUNDHAM IP17 1LP +44 7775 755825 From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ferry Slik Sent: 20 March 2014 23:54 To: Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: P3041921.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1127769 bytes Desc: not available URL: From: (Mark Leighton) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. ? the period 1983-2000, the common peat ? Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. ?Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. ? research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. 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Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry,I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so...Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity?best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Mark Leighton) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:14:37 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates?? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. ? the period 1983-2000, the common peat ? Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. ?Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. ? research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:04:28 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter _____ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ferry Slik) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:55:16 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> Status: O Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat species at Gunung Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:22:07 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Peter, Not sure about Brunei, but in Sabah - we have gone from start of the year to the beginnings of a drought. There isn't much moment - a bit of Shorea waltonii in Tabin and a few things in fruit in Sepilok - Shorea leprosula, Shorea xanthophylla - but I gather from the RAs it is just a few individuals - so not a GF yet. There is an el nino prediction for later in the year http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~pierce/elnino/fcst_gifs/fcst_made_2014-03_for_2014-12.html which may make things interesting. Colin On Mon, Mar 24, :04 PM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Ferry, > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > fascinating... Mark > > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than > 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that > there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or > pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > > Dear Ferry, > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. > the period 1983-2000, the common peat > Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many > very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since > 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > best regards, Mark Leighton > > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:58:00 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Status: O Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter ________________________________ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:44:49 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the scale of 2010. David Burslem From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 25 March 2014 09:58 To: Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter ________________________________ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; < Cc: 'Ang BB'; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ From: < To: <; <; <; < CC: <; <; < Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: <; < Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Shawn Lum) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:37:37 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Everyone, How are you? Far less exciting than the flowering of Shorea albida has been the start of what appears to be a general flowering in Singapore and Johor. Shorea macroptera began flowering a week ago, and other species are in bud or in the early stages of flowering. Exciting times! Best wishes, Shawn On 25 March 2014 17:58, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Hi ewverybody, > > > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* Joseph Charles [] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM > *To:* Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier > visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. > Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands > needs to be investigated. > > joe > Dr. Joseph K. Charles > Tel. +673 8822322 > > > > > > On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik > wrote: > Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was > exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! > > I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my > first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road > and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no > small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the > end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some > pictures.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > ------------------------------ > From: > To: ; ; > ; > CC: ; ; > > Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 > > THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. > It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no > longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. > The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level > But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained > damp underfoot > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 24 March 2014 10:04 > *To:* Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Ferry, > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > fascinating... Mark > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more > than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is > that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling > or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > Dear Ferry, > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. > the period 1983-2000, the common peat > Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many > very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since > 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > best regards, Mark Leighton > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 06:43:53 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <237cd522ec3a48bebc5079fbf754958a@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O David (and anyone else), If your crew can get some flower samples from anything that is flowering and put them in alcohol it would be greatly appreciated. Brigitte Fiala and Arthur Chung (Forest Research Centre) are interested in solving our Thrip identification issues. I have loads of volunteers to help sort any material that is collected. On a non-Mastwatch note: I am currently with the School of International Tropical Malaysia Sabah and we are a couple of new staff members to our program - particularly to help teach in the areas of Biometrics, Scientific Writing and forest engineering. The appointment would Senior Lecture, Associate Professor or Professor level depending on experience. If anyone is interested (or knows of potential candidates) - then drop me a line and I can provide further details. Also if anyone is (or has students) doing field work in Sabah or Sarawak and needs volunteers - I have a load of students within my programs interested in gaining experience. They would be available to help in the field during the long break from July to September and also potentially in the break between semesters in last weeks of Jan to mid Feb. Thanks Colin Maycock School of International Tropical Forestry Universiti Malaysia Sabah On Tue, Mar 25, :44 PM, Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) wrote: > I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry > conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the > long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot > are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea > and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the > scale of 2010. > > > > David Burslem > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 25 March 2014 09:58 > *To:* Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; > ; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > Hi ewverybody, > > > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Joseph Charles [] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM > *To:* Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Peter, Vast expanses of the* S. albida *swamp which you had earlier > visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. > Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands > needs to be investigated. > > > > joe > > *Dr. Joseph K. Charles * > > *Tel. +673 8822322 <%2B673%208822322>* > > > > > > > > On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: > > Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was > exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! > > I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my > first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road > and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no > small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the > end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some > pictures.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > > From: > To: ; ; > ; > CC: ; ; > > Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 > > THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. > > It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no > longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. > > The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level > > But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained > damp underfoot > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mailto:mastwatch-] > *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 24 March 2014 10:04 > *To:* Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Ferry, > > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > > fascinating... Mark > > > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 > years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there > are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or > pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > > Dear Ferry, > > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For > at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, > Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very > large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. > research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > > best regards, Mark Leighton > > > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > > Hi ewverybody, > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there > has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda > further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing > aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I > have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal > climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire > roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic > coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where > extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm > down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline is at > the back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps flower at > different times from inland forests. > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to > what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for > conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a > lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > Peter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ferry Slik) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:48:26 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> Status: O I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:02:39 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O We collected (into 70% alcohol) one sample of fallen blossom of S. albida at S. Ingei. THis is now in London, In a preliminary sort, we also observed a thrip in our yellow-pan collections under flowering S. albida. More thrips can be expected when, according to plan, Jeff Ang will be sorting the collection in August. He will then bring items back to Brunei for a permanent reference collection From: Sepilok2010 . [] Sent: 25 March 2014 22:44 To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) Cc: Ashton, Peter; Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; ; Ang BB; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida David (and anyone else), If your crew can get some flower samples from anything that is flowering and put them in alcohol it would be greatly appreciated. Brigitte Fiala and Arthur Chung (Forest Research Centre) are interested in solving our Thrip identification issues. I have loads of volunteers to help sort any material that is collected. On a non-Mastwatch note: I am currently with the School of International Tropical Malaysia Sabah and we are a couple of new staff members to our program - particularly to help teach in the areas of Biometrics, Scientific Writing and forest engineering. The appointment would Senior Lecture, Associate Professor or Professor level depending on experience. If anyone is interested (or knows of potential candidates) - then drop me a line and I can provide further details. Also if anyone is (or has students) doing field work in Sabah or Sarawak and needs volunteers - I have a load of students within my programs interested in gaining experience. They would be available to help in the field during the long break from July to September and also potentially in the break between semesters in last weeks of Jan to mid Feb. Thanks Colin Maycock School of International Tropical Forestry Universiti Malaysia Sabah On Tue, Mar 25, :44 PM, Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) wrote: I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the scale of 2010. David Burslem From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 25 March 2014 09:58 To: Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _____ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter _____ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:41:40 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, Status: O I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in kerangas streams as well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree speciation. Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM To: Chuck Cannon; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 04:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Dryobalanops lanceolata is re-flowering in large Valley (south central Sabah). There are also roadside trees flowering of Hopea nervosa (two trees) and Dipterocarpus gracilis (one tree) out of about 20 species planted, but I didn't see any species (of dipts) flowering in the forest apart from the Dryobalanops. David From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 27 March 2014 10:42 To: Ferry Slik; Chuck Cannon; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in kerangas streams as well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree speciation. Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM To: Chuck Cannon; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: < To: < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? 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URL: From: (MinSheng Khoo) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:36:46 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O Dear All, Most Parashorea, Dryobalanops & Fagaceae between Maliau Basin & Kalabakan Forest Reserve (inc. Brantian-Tatulit VJR) are with flower buds. Best, MinSheng On Mar 29, 2014 12:15 PM, "Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)" wrote: > Dryobalanops lanceolata is re-flowering in large Valley > (south central Sabah). There are also roadside trees flowering of Hopea > nervosa (two trees) and Dipterocarpus gracilis (one tree) out of about 20 > species planted, but I didn't see any species (of dipts) flowering in the > forest apart from the Dryobalanops. > > > > David > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 27 March 2014 10:42 > *To:* Ferry Slik; Chuck Cannon; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in *kerangas *streams as > well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities > in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree > speciation. > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [ > ] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM > *To:* Chuck Cannon; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography > meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been > around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the > Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large > expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 > From: > To: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Hi Peter, > > In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical > geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large > unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly > slightly cooler than today. > > I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often > highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was > also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few > species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive > selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of > that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. > > The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would > partially answer that question. > > All the best, > Chuck > > > On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > > Hi ewverybody, > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > Peter > > > > _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 14:37:54 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently than other dipts? I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of history and limited dispersal? Chuck From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 04:10:16 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> Status: O Parashorea tomentella and P malaanonan show similar behaviour. In Sabah - we almost always get some individuals flowering each year and in many cases get successfully recruit outside of GFs. This is part of the reason why these two species (and Kapur) are over-represented in restoration projects/nurseries. Colin Maycock On Mon, Mar 31, :37 AM, Chuck Cannon wrote: > I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they > attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating > the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung > Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of > any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently > than other dipts? > > I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of > the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and > on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually > absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of > history and limited dispersal? > > Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (NUMATA, Shinya) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:47:35 +0900 Subject: [Mastwatch] Dipterocarp flowering in Peninsular Malaysia Status: O Dear all, Last week, I and Masatoshi Yasuda visited to Pasoh FR and some amenity forests (hutan lipur) in Negri Sembilan and Selangor, Peninsular Malaysia. Flowering and flower buds of dipterocarps were observed. We saw a lot of flowers of Shorea macroptera in forest floor of Pasoh. We also observed flower buds of Dipterocarpus kunstleri, D. sublamellatus, S. multiflora (maybe), S. parvifolia. We feel the intensity of dipterocarp flowering in this year is like the biggest general flowering event in 1996 in the last 20 years. On the other hand, we also visited to Endau Rompin National Park, Johor. We found many flowering trees of non dipterocarp species (e.g. Baccaurea parvifolia), but could not find dipterocarp flowering including Dryobalanpus. I think we need to check the flowering condition again in Endau Rompin after April. All the best, Shinya Numata -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Shinya NUMATA, Ph.D. Department of Tourism Science Graduate School of Urban Environmental Sciences, Tokyo Metropolitan University Minami-Osawa 1-1, Hachiouji, Tokyo 192-0397, Japan e-mail: Phone & Fax: +81-42-677-2631 From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:47:31 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>, <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> Status: O Chuck et al., Kapur are well known to flower out of mast seasons, as well as in them.Tim Whitmore (see his 1984 book) attributed the gregarious tendency of all kapur species to 'reproductive pressure', though they have other attributes which give them advantage. The absence of Dr. lanceolata on the west side of Gng Palung is due, surely, to the predominance of granite-derived sandy soils there (alluvial bench excepted) . Kapur paji is confined to yellow-red clay loams in my experience. In fact, It is rare to find two kapur species in mixture: Even in Lambir, Dr aromatica, on deep yellow sands, and Dr lanceolata hardly mix there. Every species seems to have a unique edaphic range. Peter ________________________________________ From: Chuck Cannon [] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:37 PM To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences); Ashton, Peter; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently than other dipts? I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of history and limited dispersal? Chuck From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:06:55 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F8996@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi folks, this is great! I hope everyone is enjoying this. There was a broad-leaved Dryobalanops species in the Sungai Matan area that was mixed with the local D. beccariana (forgive me if I am wrong about the species name, just lazy to look it up). the other one was certainly a different tree. I wonder what the climate would have been like 20,000 years ago on these soils? I don't think they would have existed extensively on the shelf, would they? How quickly soils could develop to any depth is a big question -- depends on many factors, I would think. It probably would have been wet enough for rainforest but certainly cooler and the long-term patterns like the ENSO cycle would have been different. I've seen simulations say they would have been stronger and some that say they would have been weaker. Take your pick. This would have been closer to the predominant climate through the last glacial cycle than current conditions. Chuck On Mon, Mar 31, :47 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Chuck et al., > > Kapur are well known to flower out of mast seasons, as well as in them.Tim > Whitmore (see his 1984 book) attributed the gregarious tendency of all > kapur species to 'reproductive pressure', though they have other attributes > which give them advantage. > > The absence of Dr. lanceolata on the west side of Gng Palung is due, > surely, to the predominance of granite-derived sandy soils there (alluvial > bench excepted) . Kapur paji is confined to yellow-red clay loams in my > experience. In fact, It is rare to find two kapur species in mixture: Even > in Lambir, Dr aromatica, on deep yellow sands, and Dr lanceolata hardly mix > there. Every species seems to have a unique edaphic range. > > Peter > > ________________________________________ > From: Chuck Cannon [] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:37 PM > To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences); Ashton, > Peter; Ferry Slik; > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they > attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally > creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of > Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely > outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves > differently than other dipts? > > I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north > of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) > and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is > virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is > located. 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It's planted as a street tree in Malaysia - the ones I saw were particularly flourishing specimens. Kit Pearce Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Mar 2014, at 07:54, Ferry Slik wrote: > > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:27:36 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O I'm not sure which peat swamp area of Brunei was visited by Prof Ferry Silk, but in the interior of Belait District, in the Sungai Ingei Protection Forest, during 2 - 9th March the Project team saw very heavy flowering of Shorea albida in kerapa/peat swamp forest, fallen flowers covering the ground. There also seemed to be a web of fungal hyphae surface, overall. I have pictures of fallen flowers, as (I believe) does Stephen Hogg Gathorne Cranbrook Great Glemham House SAXMUNDHAM IP17 1LP +44 7775 755825 From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ferry Slik Sent: 20 March 2014 23:54 To: Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: P3041921.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1127769 bytes Desc: not available URL: From: (Mark Leighton) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. ? the period 1983-2000, the common peat ? Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. ?Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. ? research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ferry Slik) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:16:19 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry,I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so...Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity?best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Mark Leighton) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:14:37 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates?? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. ? the period 1983-2000, the common peat ? Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. ?Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. ? research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:04:28 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter _____ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ferry Slik) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:55:16 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> Status: O Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat species at Gunung Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:22:07 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Peter, Not sure about Brunei, but in Sabah - we have gone from start of the year to the beginnings of a drought. There isn't much moment - a bit of Shorea waltonii in Tabin and a few things in fruit in Sepilok - Shorea leprosula, Shorea xanthophylla - but I gather from the RAs it is just a few individuals - so not a GF yet. There is an el nino prediction for later in the year http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~pierce/elnino/fcst_gifs/fcst_made_2014-03_for_2014-12.html which may make things interesting. Colin On Mon, Mar 24, :04 PM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Ferry, > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > fascinating... Mark > > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than > 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that > there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or > pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > > Dear Ferry, > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. > the period 1983-2000, the common peat > Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many > very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since > 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > best regards, Mark Leighton > > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:58:00 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Status: O Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter ________________________________ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:44:49 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the scale of 2010. David Burslem From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 25 March 2014 09:58 To: Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter ________________________________ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; < Cc: 'Ang BB'; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ From: < To: <; <; <; < CC: <; <; < Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: <; < Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Shawn Lum) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:37:37 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Everyone, How are you? Far less exciting than the flowering of Shorea albida has been the start of what appears to be a general flowering in Singapore and Johor. Shorea macroptera began flowering a week ago, and other species are in bud or in the early stages of flowering. Exciting times! Best wishes, Shawn On 25 March 2014 17:58, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Hi ewverybody, > > > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* Joseph Charles [] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM > *To:* Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier > visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. > Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands > needs to be investigated. > > joe > Dr. Joseph K. Charles > Tel. +673 8822322 > > > > > > On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik > wrote: > Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was > exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! > > I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my > first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road > and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no > small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the > end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some > pictures.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > ------------------------------ > From: > To: ; ; > ; > CC: ; ; > > Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 > > THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. > It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no > longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. > The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level > But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained > damp underfoot > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 24 March 2014 10:04 > *To:* Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Ferry, > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > fascinating... Mark > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more > than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is > that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling > or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > Dear Ferry, > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. > the period 1983-2000, the common peat > Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many > very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since > 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > best regards, Mark Leighton > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 06:43:53 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <237cd522ec3a48bebc5079fbf754958a@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O David (and anyone else), If your crew can get some flower samples from anything that is flowering and put them in alcohol it would be greatly appreciated. Brigitte Fiala and Arthur Chung (Forest Research Centre) are interested in solving our Thrip identification issues. I have loads of volunteers to help sort any material that is collected. On a non-Mastwatch note: I am currently with the School of International Tropical Malaysia Sabah and we are a couple of new staff members to our program - particularly to help teach in the areas of Biometrics, Scientific Writing and forest engineering. The appointment would Senior Lecture, Associate Professor or Professor level depending on experience. If anyone is interested (or knows of potential candidates) - then drop me a line and I can provide further details. Also if anyone is (or has students) doing field work in Sabah or Sarawak and needs volunteers - I have a load of students within my programs interested in gaining experience. They would be available to help in the field during the long break from July to September and also potentially in the break between semesters in last weeks of Jan to mid Feb. Thanks Colin Maycock School of International Tropical Forestry Universiti Malaysia Sabah On Tue, Mar 25, :44 PM, Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) wrote: > I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry > conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the > long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot > are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea > and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the > scale of 2010. > > > > David Burslem > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 25 March 2014 09:58 > *To:* Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; > ; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > Hi ewverybody, > > > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Joseph Charles [] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM > *To:* Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Peter, Vast expanses of the* S. albida *swamp which you had earlier > visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. > Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands > needs to be investigated. > > > > joe > > *Dr. Joseph K. Charles * > > *Tel. +673 8822322 <%2B673%208822322>* > > > > > > > > On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: > > Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was > exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! > > I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my > first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road > and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no > small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the > end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some > pictures.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > > From: > To: ; ; > ; > CC: ; ; > > Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 > > THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. > > It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no > longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. > > The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level > > But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained > damp underfoot > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mailto:mastwatch-] > *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 24 March 2014 10:04 > *To:* Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Ferry, > > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > > fascinating... Mark > > > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 > years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there > are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or > pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > > Dear Ferry, > > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For > at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, > Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very > large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. > research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > > best regards, Mark Leighton > > > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > > Hi ewverybody, > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there > has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda > further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing > aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I > have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal > climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire > roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic > coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where > extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm > down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline is at > the back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps flower at > different times from inland forests. > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to > what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for > conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a > lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > Peter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:02:39 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O We collected (into 70% alcohol) one sample of fallen blossom of S. albida at S. Ingei. THis is now in London, In a preliminary sort, we also observed a thrip in our yellow-pan collections under flowering S. albida. More thrips can be expected when, according to plan, Jeff Ang will be sorting the collection in August. He will then bring items back to Brunei for a permanent reference collection From: Sepilok2010 . [] Sent: 25 March 2014 22:44 To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) Cc: Ashton, Peter; Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; ; Ang BB; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida David (and anyone else), If your crew can get some flower samples from anything that is flowering and put them in alcohol it would be greatly appreciated. Brigitte Fiala and Arthur Chung (Forest Research Centre) are interested in solving our Thrip identification issues. I have loads of volunteers to help sort any material that is collected. On a non-Mastwatch note: I am currently with the School of International Tropical Malaysia Sabah and we are a couple of new staff members to our program - particularly to help teach in the areas of Biometrics, Scientific Writing and forest engineering. The appointment would Senior Lecture, Associate Professor or Professor level depending on experience. If anyone is interested (or knows of potential candidates) - then drop me a line and I can provide further details. Also if anyone is (or has students) doing field work in Sabah or Sarawak and needs volunteers - I have a load of students within my programs interested in gaining experience. They would be available to help in the field during the long break from July to September and also potentially in the break between semesters in last weeks of Jan to mid Feb. Thanks Colin Maycock School of International Tropical Forestry Universiti Malaysia Sabah On Tue, Mar 25, :44 PM, Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) wrote: I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the scale of 2010. David Burslem From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 25 March 2014 09:58 To: Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _____ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter _____ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:41:40 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, Status: O I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in kerangas streams as well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree speciation. Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM To: Chuck Cannon; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 04:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Dryobalanops lanceolata is re-flowering in large Valley (south central Sabah). There are also roadside trees flowering of Hopea nervosa (two trees) and Dipterocarpus gracilis (one tree) out of about 20 species planted, but I didn't see any species (of dipts) flowering in the forest apart from the Dryobalanops. David From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 27 March 2014 10:42 To: Ferry Slik; Chuck Cannon; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in kerangas streams as well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree speciation. Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM To: Chuck Cannon; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: < To: < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? 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URL: From: (MinSheng Khoo) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:36:46 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O Dear All, Most Parashorea, Dryobalanops & Fagaceae between Maliau Basin & Kalabakan Forest Reserve (inc. Brantian-Tatulit VJR) are with flower buds. Best, MinSheng On Mar 29, 2014 12:15 PM, "Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)" wrote: > Dryobalanops lanceolata is re-flowering in large Valley > (south central Sabah). There are also roadside trees flowering of Hopea > nervosa (two trees) and Dipterocarpus gracilis (one tree) out of about 20 > species planted, but I didn't see any species (of dipts) flowering in the > forest apart from the Dryobalanops. > > > > David > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 27 March 2014 10:42 > *To:* Ferry Slik; Chuck Cannon; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in *kerangas *streams as > well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities > in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree > speciation. > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [ > ] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM > *To:* Chuck Cannon; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography > meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been > around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the > Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large > expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 > From: > To: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Hi Peter, > > In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical > geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large > unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly > slightly cooler than today. > > I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often > highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was > also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few > species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive > selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of > that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. > > The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would > partially answer that question. > > All the best, > Chuck > > > On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > > Hi ewverybody, > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > Peter > > > > _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 14:37:54 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently than other dipts? I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of history and limited dispersal? Chuck From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 04:10:16 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> Status: O Parashorea tomentella and P malaanonan show similar behaviour. In Sabah - we almost always get some individuals flowering each year and in many cases get successfully recruit outside of GFs. This is part of the reason why these two species (and Kapur) are over-represented in restoration projects/nurseries. Colin Maycock On Mon, Mar 31, :37 AM, Chuck Cannon wrote: > I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they > attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating > the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung > Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of > any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently > than other dipts? > > I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of > the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and > on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually > absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of > history and limited dispersal? > > Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (NUMATA, Shinya) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:47:35 +0900 Subject: [Mastwatch] Dipterocarp flowering in Peninsular Malaysia Status: O Dear all, Last week, I and Masatoshi Yasuda visited to Pasoh FR and some amenity forests (hutan lipur) in Negri Sembilan and Selangor, Peninsular Malaysia. Flowering and flower buds of dipterocarps were observed. We saw a lot of flowers of Shorea macroptera in forest floor of Pasoh. We also observed flower buds of Dipterocarpus kunstleri, D. sublamellatus, S. multiflora (maybe), S. parvifolia. We feel the intensity of dipterocarp flowering in this year is like the biggest general flowering event in 1996 in the last 20 years. On the other hand, we also visited to Endau Rompin National Park, Johor. We found many flowering trees of non dipterocarp species (e.g. Baccaurea parvifolia), but could not find dipterocarp flowering including Dryobalanpus. I think we need to check the flowering condition again in Endau Rompin after April. All the best, Shinya Numata -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Shinya NUMATA, Ph.D. Department of Tourism Science Graduate School of Urban Environmental Sciences, Tokyo Metropolitan University Minami-Osawa 1-1, Hachiouji, Tokyo 192-0397, Japan e-mail: Phone & Fax: +81-42-677-2631 From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:47:31 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>, <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> Status: O Chuck et al., Kapur are well known to flower out of mast seasons, as well as in them.Tim Whitmore (see his 1984 book) attributed the gregarious tendency of all kapur species to 'reproductive pressure', though they have other attributes which give them advantage. The absence of Dr. lanceolata on the west side of Gng Palung is due, surely, to the predominance of granite-derived sandy soils there (alluvial bench excepted) . Kapur paji is confined to yellow-red clay loams in my experience. In fact, It is rare to find two kapur species in mixture: Even in Lambir, Dr aromatica, on deep yellow sands, and Dr lanceolata hardly mix there. Every species seems to have a unique edaphic range. Peter ________________________________________ From: Chuck Cannon [] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:37 PM To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences); Ashton, Peter; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently than other dipts? I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of history and limited dispersal? Chuck From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:06:55 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F8996@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi folks, this is great! I hope everyone is enjoying this. There was a broad-leaved Dryobalanops species in the Sungai Matan area that was mixed with the local D. beccariana (forgive me if I am wrong about the species name, just lazy to look it up). the other one was certainly a different tree. I wonder what the climate would have been like 20,000 years ago on these soils? I don't think they would have existed extensively on the shelf, would they? How quickly soils could develop to any depth is a big question -- depends on many factors, I would think. It probably would have been wet enough for rainforest but certainly cooler and the long-term patterns like the ENSO cycle would have been different. I've seen simulations say they would have been stronger and some that say they would have been weaker. Take your pick. This would have been closer to the predominant climate through the last glacial cycle than current conditions. Chuck On Mon, Mar 31, :47 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Chuck et al., > > Kapur are well known to flower out of mast seasons, as well as in them.Tim > Whitmore (see his 1984 book) attributed the gregarious tendency of all > kapur species to 'reproductive pressure', though they have other attributes > which give them advantage. > > The absence of Dr. lanceolata on the west side of Gng Palung is due, > surely, to the predominance of granite-derived sandy soils there (alluvial > bench excepted) . Kapur paji is confined to yellow-red clay loams in my > experience. In fact, It is rare to find two kapur species in mixture: Even > in Lambir, Dr aromatica, on deep yellow sands, and Dr lanceolata hardly mix > there. Every species seems to have a unique edaphic range. > > Peter > > ________________________________________ > From: Chuck Cannon [] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:37 PM > To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences); Ashton, > Peter; Ferry Slik; > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they > attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally > creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of > Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely > outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves > differently than other dipts? > > I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north > of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) > and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is > virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is > located. 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It's planted as a street tree in Malaysia - the ones I saw were particularly flourishing specimens. Kit Pearce Sent from my iPhone > On 21 Mar 2014, at 07:54, Ferry Slik wrote: > > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: P3041921.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1127769 bytes Desc: not available URL: From: (Mark Leighton) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. ? the period 1983-2000, the common peat ? Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. ?Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. ? research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ferry Slik) Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:16:19 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry,I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so...Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity?best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Mark Leighton) Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:14:37 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates?? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. ? the period 1983-2000, the common peat ? Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. ?Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. ? research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:04:28 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Status: O Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter _____ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat species at Gunung Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 06:22:07 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Peter, Not sure about Brunei, but in Sabah - we have gone from start of the year to the beginnings of a drought. There isn't much moment - a bit of Shorea waltonii in Tabin and a few things in fruit in Sepilok - Shorea leprosula, Shorea xanthophylla - but I gather from the RAs it is just a few individuals - so not a GF yet. There is an el nino prediction for later in the year http://meteora.ucsd.edu/~pierce/elnino/fcst_gifs/fcst_made_2014-03_for_2014-12.html which may make things interesting. Colin On Mon, Mar 24, :04 PM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Ferry, > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > fascinating... Mark > > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than > 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that > there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or > pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > > Dear Ferry, > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. > the period 1983-2000, the common peat > Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many > very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since > 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > best regards, Mark Leighton > > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 09:58:00 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Status: O Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter ________________________________ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:44:49 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the scale of 2010. David Burslem From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 25 March 2014 09:58 To: Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter ________________________________ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; < Cc: 'Ang BB'; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ From: < To: <; <; <; < CC: <; <; < Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: <; < Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik <<> wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list < http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Shawn Lum) Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:37:37 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Everyone, How are you? Far less exciting than the flowering of Shorea albida has been the start of what appears to be a general flowering in Singapore and Johor. Shorea macroptera began flowering a week ago, and other species are in bud or in the early stages of flowering. Exciting times! Best wishes, Shawn On 25 March 2014 17:58, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Hi ewverybody, > > > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* Joseph Charles [] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM > *To:* Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier > visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. > Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands > needs to be investigated. > > joe > Dr. Joseph K. Charles > Tel. +673 8822322 > > > > > > On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik > wrote: > Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was > exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! > > I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my > first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road > and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no > small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the > end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some > pictures.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > *http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/* > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > ------------------------------ > From: > To: ; ; > ; > CC: ; ; > > Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 > > THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. > It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no > longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. > The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level > But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained > damp underfoot > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 24 March 2014 10:04 > *To:* Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > Peter > ------------------------------ > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Ferry, > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > fascinating... Mark > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more > than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is > that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling > or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > Dear Ferry, > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. > the period 1983-2000, the common peat > Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many > very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since > 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > best regards, Mark Leighton > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 06:43:53 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <237cd522ec3a48bebc5079fbf754958a@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O David (and anyone else), If your crew can get some flower samples from anything that is flowering and put them in alcohol it would be greatly appreciated. Brigitte Fiala and Arthur Chung (Forest Research Centre) are interested in solving our Thrip identification issues. I have loads of volunteers to help sort any material that is collected. On a non-Mastwatch note: I am currently with the School of International Tropical Malaysia Sabah and we are a couple of new staff members to our program - particularly to help teach in the areas of Biometrics, Scientific Writing and forest engineering. The appointment would Senior Lecture, Associate Professor or Professor level depending on experience. If anyone is interested (or knows of potential candidates) - then drop me a line and I can provide further details. Also if anyone is (or has students) doing field work in Sabah or Sarawak and needs volunteers - I have a load of students within my programs interested in gaining experience. They would be available to help in the field during the long break from July to September and also potentially in the break between semesters in last weeks of Jan to mid Feb. Thanks Colin Maycock School of International Tropical Forestry Universiti Malaysia Sabah On Tue, Mar 25, :44 PM, Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) wrote: > I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry > conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the > long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot > are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea > and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the > scale of 2010. > > > > David Burslem > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 25 March 2014 09:58 > *To:* Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; > ; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > Hi ewverybody, > > > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Joseph Charles [] > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM > *To:* Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; > > *Cc:* 'Ang BB'; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Peter, Vast expanses of the* S. albida *swamp which you had earlier > visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. > Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands > needs to be investigated. > > > > joe > > *Dr. Joseph K. Charles * > > *Tel. +673 8822322 <%2B673%208822322>* > > > > > > > > On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: > > Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was > exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! > > I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my > first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road > and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no > small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the > end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some > pictures.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > > From: > To: ; ; > ; > CC: ; ; > > Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 > > THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. > > It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no > longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. > > The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level > > But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained > damp underfoot > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mailto:mastwatch-] > *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 24 March 2014 10:04 > *To:* Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! > > Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass > flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and > on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires > are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, > and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? > > The regeneration of *S. albida *is intriguing. Did you go far into the > swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been > observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's > phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did > observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind > Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing > eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [ > ] > *Sent:* Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM > *To:* Ferry Slik; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Ferry, > > that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class > frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, > they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked > as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given > the expected slow growth rates? > > fascinating... Mark > > > > On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > > For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 > years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there > are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or > pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 > From: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > To: ; > > Dear Ferry, > > I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For > at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, > Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very > large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. > research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... > > Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? > > best regards, Mark Leighton > > > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik > wrote: > > I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida > were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! > > Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... > > Regards, > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > > > > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > > Hi ewverybody, > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there > has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda > further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing > aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I > have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal > climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire > roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic > coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where > extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm > down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline is at > the back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps flower at > different times from inland forests. > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to > what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for > conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a > lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > Peter > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ferry Slik) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 23:48:26 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> Status: O I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Lord Cranbrook) Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:02:39 -0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Status: O We collected (into 70% alcohol) one sample of fallen blossom of S. albida at S. Ingei. THis is now in London, In a preliminary sort, we also observed a thrip in our yellow-pan collections under flowering S. albida. More thrips can be expected when, according to plan, Jeff Ang will be sorting the collection in August. He will then bring items back to Brunei for a permanent reference collection From: Sepilok2010 . [] Sent: 25 March 2014 22:44 To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) Cc: Ashton, Peter; Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; ; Ang BB; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida David (and anyone else), If your crew can get some flower samples from anything that is flowering and put them in alcohol it would be greatly appreciated. Brigitte Fiala and Arthur Chung (Forest Research Centre) are interested in solving our Thrip identification issues. I have loads of volunteers to help sort any material that is collected. On a non-Mastwatch note: I am currently with the School of International Tropical Malaysia Sabah and we are a couple of new staff members to our program - particularly to help teach in the areas of Biometrics, Scientific Writing and forest engineering. The appointment would Senior Lecture, Associate Professor or Professor level depending on experience. If anyone is interested (or knows of potential candidates) - then drop me a line and I can provide further details. Also if anyone is (or has students) doing field work in Sabah or Sarawak and needs volunteers - I have a load of students within my programs interested in gaining experience. They would be available to help in the field during the long break from July to September and also potentially in the break between semesters in last weeks of Jan to mid Feb. Thanks Colin Maycock School of International Tropical Forestry Universiti Malaysia Sabah On Tue, Mar 25, :44 PM, Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences) wrote: I'm in Danum right now and can confirm that there have been dry conditions throughout February, and March to date, according to the long-term residents. Dryobalanops has flowered and trees on the 50 ha plot are now in fruit, and there's a partial on-going flowering of Parashorea and Shorea leprosula, but no evidence yet of a general flowering on the scale of 2010. David Burslem From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 25 March 2014 09:58 To: Joseph Charles; Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Mark Leighton; ; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _____ From: Joseph Charles [] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 5:26 AM To: Ferry Slik; Lord Cranbrook; Ashton, Peter; Mark Leighton; Cc: 'Ang BB'; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Peter, Vast expanses of the S. albida swamp which you had earlier visited have all disappeared giving place to highways and low cost housing. Whether there is in the remaining tall alan stands needs to be investigated. joe Dr. Joseph K. Charles Tel. +673 8822322 On Monday, 24 March 2014, 21:55, Ferry Slik wrote: Yes, it has been dry for the last month, but the month before that was exceptionally wet, with many places of Brunei flooded for several weeks! I will take a better look in these peat swamps. Last time was actually my first visit to a peat swamp ever. We stopped along the water pipeline road and only went in about a hundred meters..... I noticed that there were no small trees because I wanted to take some pictures of the Shorea, so in the end I just collected some fallen leaves and flowers and took some pictures.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ From: To: ; ; ; CC: ; ; Subject: RE: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:37:01 +0000 THe drought this year was as serious in Brunei as elsewhere in Malesia. It broke in Singapore with heavy rain on 16th March, but by then I was no longer ion Brunei so can't say what has happened there. The Belait river and its tributary Ingei were near record low level But in the Ingei Protection forest area, the kerapa-swamp forest remained damp underfoot From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 24 March 2014 10:04 To: Mark Leighton; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Dear Ferry, mark, Gathorne and Kit! Mass flowering of Shorea albida occasionally does coincide with mass flowering in the upland forest, but is much less frequent, as you say, and on occasion does not coincide. I read here (in European news) that fires are raging again in Sumatra: Is there evidence of drought in Brunei, and are there any other dipterocarps flowering? The regeneration of S. albida is intriguing. Did you go far into the swamp, Ferry? Seedling regeneration and pole sized trees have rarely been observed in the tall alan (seringawan) stands behind the coast (Anderson's phasic community 2), but does occur, patchily, in p.c. 3-4. But I did observe vigorous regeneration on the banks of the fresh drainage cut behind Seria, as it was in 2002. Is it still there? Could it be that increasing eustatic sea level is backing up water in the swamp periphery? Peter _____ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Mark Leighton [] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 8:14 PM To: Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Ferry, that's exactly the same for GP--- I recall plotting the dbh class frequency distributions some years ago for our peat Shorea, and amazingly, they formed cohorts with spaced dbh peaks 10-15 cm apart... I was shocked as this indicated recruitment might be what--- every 30, 40 years, given the expected slow growth rates? fascinating... Mark On Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:16 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: For what I heard, this is the first time in a very long time (more than 10 years) that these Shorea's are flowering..... The funny thing is that there are only large trees, I couldn't find a single seedling, sapling or pole..... How is that in the peats of Gunung Palung? Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _____ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:09:38 +0800 From: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida To: ; Dear Ferry, I think not all peat swamps are the same or follow the same pattern. For at least the period 1983-2000, the common peat Palung, Shorea uliginosa, never flowered, despite being represented by many very large trees. Cam Webb or Andy Marshall might have observations since 2000. research site was shallow, a meter deep or so... Very long masting cycles that vary by species and productivity? best regards, Mark Leighton On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:54 PM, Ferry Slik wrote: I just went to a peat swamp in Brunei and almost all the Shorea albida were flowering! The whole forest floor was covered with flowers! Not sure if peat swamps follow a normal Mast pattern though.... Regards, Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No SC013683. _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:41:40 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, Status: O I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in kerangas streams as well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree speciation. Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM To: Chuck Cannon; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? Peter _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 04:15:14 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Dryobalanops lanceolata is re-flowering in large Valley (south central Sabah). There are also roadside trees flowering of Hopea nervosa (two trees) and Dipterocarpus gracilis (one tree) out of about 20 species planted, but I didn't see any species (of dipts) flowering in the forest apart from the Dryobalanops. David From: mastwatch- [mailto:mastwatch-] On Behalf Of Ashton, Peter Sent: 27 March 2014 10:42 To: Ferry Slik; Chuck Cannon; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in kerangas streams as well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree speciation. Peter ________________________________ From: mastwatch- [mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM To: Chuck Cannon; < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... Ferry Slik Associate Professor Faculty of Science Universiti Brunei Darussalam, Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. Website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ Plants of Southeast Asia http://www.asianplant.net Asian plant species synonym website http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm ________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 From: < To: < Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida Hi Peter, In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly slightly cooler than today. I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would partially answer that question. All the best, Chuck On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: Hi ewverybody, All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might explain why swamps times from inland forests. And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? 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URL: From: (MinSheng Khoo) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:36:46 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O Dear All, Most Parashorea, Dryobalanops & Fagaceae between Maliau Basin & Kalabakan Forest Reserve (inc. Brantian-Tatulit VJR) are with flower buds. Best, MinSheng On Mar 29, 2014 12:15 PM, "Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences)" wrote: > Dryobalanops lanceolata is re-flowering in large Valley > (south central Sabah). There are also roadside trees flowering of Hopea > nervosa (two trees) and Dipterocarpus gracilis (one tree) out of about 20 > species planted, but I didn't see any species (of dipts) flowering in the > forest apart from the Dryobalanops. > > > > David > > > > *From:* mastwatch- [mailto: > mastwatch-] *On Behalf Of *Ashton, Peter > *Sent:* 27 March 2014 10:42 > *To:* Ferry Slik; Chuck Cannon; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > > > I wonder what proportion will be found to occur in *kerangas *streams as > well. But you are right and, as Bob Morley related, peat swamp communities > in SE Sunda early in the Miocene, quite long enough for tree > speciation. > > > > Peter > ------------------------------ > > *From:* mastwatch- [ > mastwatch-] on behalf of Ferry Slik [ > ] > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:48 PM > *To:* Chuck Cannon; > *Subject:* Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > I saw a talk about peat swamp fish when I Asian Biogeography > meeting in Berlin last year, that also suggests that the peats have been > around for a considerable time.... So they must have been moving around the > Sunda Shelf, probably following the historical sea levels and with large > expanses in central Sundaland during glacial maxima.... > > Ferry Slik > Associate Professor > Faculty of Science > Universiti Brunei Darussalam, > Jln Tungku Link, Gadong, BE1410, Brunei Darussalam. > > Website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/ > > Plants of Southeast Asia > http://www.asianplant.net > > Asian plant species synonym website > http://www.phylodiversity.net/fslik/synonym_lookup.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:23:36 -0500 > From: > To: > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > Hi Peter, > > In thinking about these peats, it's imporatnt to include their historical > geography. For much of the last ice age, there was probably a large > unified (?) peat in central Sundaland, possibly much larger and certainly > slightly cooler than today. > > I've always been amazed that such a small forest type, that is often > highly fragmented naturally, could produce such high biodiversity that was > also highly specialized. In extreme environments, you typically get a few > species that strongly dominate the community because of clear and pervasive > selection pressures. perhaps the conditions are not as extreme as all of > that either but there does seem to be a strong environmental filter. > > The fact that the area was probably substantially larger in the past would > partially answer that question. > > All the best, > Chuck > > > On 03/25/2014 04:58 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > > Hi ewverybody, > > All interesting, including Colin (Maycock?) at Danum who says there has > been little drought up there to date, - out of kilter with Sunda further > west as so often. But there is another potentially intriguing aspect of > this issue which UBD sleuths can get on to, and for which I have brought > Ian Baillie in as he has had an interest in the coastal climate of NW > Borneo: Primary seringawan forest should evapotranspire roughly as much > vapour as the sea surface, so where is the climatic coastline, on the true > sea front back of swamps where extensive? Of course coastal > development, and conversion to oil palm down the coast, wil laffect this. > But, if the climatic coastline back of the swamp, that might > explain why swamps times from inland forests. > > And Joe (it is always good to hear from you!), what has happened to what > was left of Andulau, by far the most important forest for conservation from > a tree species endemism perspective (and probably a lot more, such as soil > fauna and flora, and arthropods, besides)? > > Peter > > > > _______________________________________________ Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No > SC013683. > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 14:37:54 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> Status: O I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently than other dipts? I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of history and limited dispersal? Chuck From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 04:10:16 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> Status: O Parashorea tomentella and P malaanonan show similar behaviour. In Sabah - we almost always get some individuals flowering each year and in many cases get successfully recruit outside of GFs. This is part of the reason why these two species (and Kapur) are over-represented in restoration projects/nurseries. Colin Maycock On Mon, Mar 31, :37 AM, Chuck Cannon wrote: > I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they > attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating > the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung > Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of > any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently > than other dipts? > > I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of > the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and > on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually > absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of > history and limited dispersal? > > Chuck > > _______________________________________________ > Mastwatch mailing list > > http://lists.phylodiversity.net/listinfo.cgi/mastwatch-phylodiversity.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (NUMATA, Shinya) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 12:47:35 +0900 Subject: [Mastwatch] Dipterocarp flowering in Peninsular Malaysia Status: O Dear all, Last week, I and Masatoshi Yasuda visited to Pasoh FR and some amenity forests (hutan lipur) in Negri Sembilan and Selangor, Peninsular Malaysia. Flowering and flower buds of dipterocarps were observed. We saw a lot of flowers of Shorea macroptera in forest floor of Pasoh. We also observed flower buds of Dipterocarpus kunstleri, D. sublamellatus, S. multiflora (maybe), S. parvifolia. We feel the intensity of dipterocarp flowering in this year is like the biggest general flowering event in 1996 in the last 20 years. On the other hand, we also visited to Endau Rompin National Park, Johor. We found many flowering trees of non dipterocarp species (e.g. Baccaurea parvifolia), but could not find dipterocarp flowering including Dryobalanpus. I think we need to check the flowering condition again in Endau Rompin after April. All the best, Shinya Numata -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Shinya NUMATA, Ph.D. Department of Tourism Science Graduate School of Urban Environmental Sciences, Tokyo Metropolitan University Minami-Osawa 1-1, Hachiouji, Tokyo 192-0397, Japan e-mail: Phone & Fax: +81-42-677-2631 From: (Ashton, Peter) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:47:31 +0000 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> , , <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, , <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> , , <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv>, <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com>, <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>, <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> Status: O Chuck et al., Kapur are well known to flower out of mast seasons, as well as in them.Tim Whitmore (see his 1984 book) attributed the gregarious tendency of all kapur species to 'reproductive pressure', though they have other attributes which give them advantage. The absence of Dr. lanceolata on the west side of Gng Palung is due, surely, to the predominance of granite-derived sandy soils there (alluvial bench excepted) . Kapur paji is confined to yellow-red clay loams in my experience. In fact, It is rare to find two kapur species in mixture: Even in Lambir, Dr aromatica, on deep yellow sands, and Dr lanceolata hardly mix there. Every species seems to have a unique edaphic range. Peter ________________________________________ From: Chuck Cannon [] Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:37 PM To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences); Ashton, Peter; Ferry Slik; Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves differently than other dipts? I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is located. Chance of history and limited dispersal? Chuck From: (Chuck Cannon) Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 11:06:55 -0500 Subject: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida <1395500978.95584.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <1395533677.2942.YahooMailNeo@web190602.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F7F0A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <002b01cf474d$0000f3b0$0002db10$@co.uk> <1395739585.41335.YahooMailNeo@web140902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F801C@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5332E2E8.9060409@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F820A@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> <5240e4201ded4f1482651d133f89dec0@DB4PR04MB444.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com> <53387292.2030806@gmail.com> <9AD048901E354E4F87A861CC4085E9F9B01F8996@HARVANDMBX02.fasmail.priv> Status: O Hi folks, this is great! I hope everyone is enjoying this. There was a broad-leaved Dryobalanops species in the Sungai Matan area that was mixed with the local D. beccariana (forgive me if I am wrong about the species name, just lazy to look it up). the other one was certainly a different tree. I wonder what the climate would have been like 20,000 years ago on these soils? I don't think they would have existed extensively on the shelf, would they? How quickly soils could develop to any depth is a big question -- depends on many factors, I would think. It probably would have been wet enough for rainforest but certainly cooler and the long-term patterns like the ENSO cycle would have been different. I've seen simulations say they would have been stronger and some that say they would have been weaker. Take your pick. This would have been closer to the predominant climate through the last glacial cycle than current conditions. Chuck On Mon, Mar 31, :47 AM, Ashton, Peter wrote: > Chuck et al., > > Kapur are well known to flower out of mast seasons, as well as in them.Tim > Whitmore (see his 1984 book) attributed the gregarious tendency of all > kapur species to 'reproductive pressure', though they have other attributes > which give them advantage. > > The absence of Dr. lanceolata on the west side of Gng Palung is due, > surely, to the predominance of granite-derived sandy soils there (alluvial > bench excepted) . Kapur paji is confined to yellow-red clay loams in my > experience. In fact, It is rare to find two kapur species in mixture: Even > in Lambir, Dr aromatica, on deep yellow sands, and Dr lanceolata hardly mix > there. Every species seems to have a unique edaphic range. > > Peter > > ________________________________________ > From: Chuck Cannon [] > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 3:37 PM > To: Burslem, Dr David F. R. P. (School of Biological Sciences); Ashton, > Peter; Ferry Slik; > Subject: Re: [Mastwatch] Shorea albida > > I've always had a feeling that Dryobalanops was gregarious and they > attempt to fruit more frequently than other Dipts, perhaps locally > creating the benefits of synchronous fruiting? The populations north of > Gunung Palung flowered and fruited (with varying success) completely > outside of any general fruiting. Does anyone think that kapur behaves > differently than other dipts? > > I've always been curious about the fact that kapur is so abundant north > of the Matan River (which forms the northern border of Gunung Palung NP) > and on the eastern side of the Palung mountain range, while it is > virtually absent on the western side, where the research site is > located. Chance of history and limited dispersal? > > Chuck -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Charles Cannon Associate Professor, Texas Tech University Senior Visiting Professor, Center for Integrative Conservation (XTBG) for contact info, see:ecologicalevolution.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From: (Sepilok2010 .) Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 12:28:57 +0800 Subject: [Mastwatch] Strangler fig densities in different forest types Status: O Hi All, On a non-masting topic. Does anyone have any info on strangler fig densities in Kerangas forests? I have a final year project student fig densities within Sepilok FR and we have yet to encounter stranglers (free standing figs are also low). Thanks Colin Maycock Uni Malaysia Sabah -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: